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perhaps the nsa is doing things it was not supposed to do. >> ed, does the nsa have any credible defense when they say, look, some of this stuff is unintended, like human error. they will plug in something. there will be a typo and they will observe somebody, eavesdrop or collect some sort of intelligence because of that. >> sure. it will be a defense. they will have to show that to lawmakers very quickly when they get back in september. you will see a series of moves to overhaul the place or put more protections in place. they will have to be pretty transparent about the the types of minimal or, you know, minor mistakes as they say and show lawmakers it was a mere typo, it's not a big deal. whether lawmakers will believe them, we will have to see. >> let's see what the president had to say in a press conference at the white house. here it is. >> i am comfortable that the program is currently not being abused. i'm comfortable that the american people examined exactly what was taking place, how it was being used, what the safeguards were, that they would say, you know what, these folks ar
perhaps the nsa is doing things it was not supposed to do. >> ed, does the nsa have any credible defense when they say, look, some of this stuff is unintended, like human error. they will plug in something. there will be a typo and they will observe somebody, eavesdrop or collect some sort of intelligence because of that. >> sure. it will be a defense. they will have to show that to lawmakers very quickly when they get back in september. you will see a series of moves to overhaul...
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. >>> the father of nsa leaker edward snowden says he's not saying when he will visit russia. edward snowden has been charged in federal court with violations of the espionage act. >>> new articles gifl giving a fresh perspective of the march in washington for jobs and freedom at the height of the civil rights movement. the saturday evening post covered civil rights extensively in the '50s and '60s and has released a column called "it's our country, too" and it's about how the march actually began a full 22 years earlier with the protests that were planned but never actually happened. joining me now is jeff neilson as well as james peterson, professor of studies at lehigh university and an msnbc contributor. gentlemen, good to have you both here. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, alex. >> jeff, the retrospective article includes the discussion with walter white. what happened there? talk about what happened all the way back to 1940 and people have to remember what time this was. this was a full year before pearl harbor, a much different time. >> that's right. at this poi
. >>> the father of nsa leaker edward snowden says he's not saying when he will visit russia. edward snowden has been charged in federal court with violations of the espionage act. >>> new articles gifl giving a fresh perspective of the march in washington for jobs and freedom at the height of the civil rights movement. the saturday evening post covered civil rights extensively in the '50s and '60s and has released a column called "it's our country, too" and it's...
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you had reporting on the nsa. they were one of the biggest papers, one of the two papers alongside the guardian to issue the leaks. you had editorial pages saying, hold on, we have to stop these leaks. i think as long as there's an adaptation to what the american public wants, then, yeah. >> but i'm not sure that -- so, i hear you on what the american public wants, but that always makes me a little bit nervous, only because part of what we choose from is a menu of options that are there. and so, this is part of some of the independent media piece, right, to the extent that independent media gets squeezed, i'm not sure that people are making -- it's like, the american public wants reality tv. well, no, reality television is what's on. so you pick which one of them you want. i guess that's my only concern, do we even have on our menu, independent, long-form sort of deep, in-depth journalism? >> we do, if we seek it. the reality is, and i think, you know, the rise of buzz feed exemplifies this, and also in some ways
you had reporting on the nsa. they were one of the biggest papers, one of the two papers alongside the guardian to issue the leaks. you had editorial pages saying, hold on, we have to stop these leaks. i think as long as there's an adaptation to what the american public wants, then, yeah. >> but i'm not sure that -- so, i hear you on what the american public wants, but that always makes me a little bit nervous, only because part of what we choose from is a menu of options that are there....
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up next, the most effective times report on how the nsa reads your e-mails. chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for boat insurance. geico, see how much you could save. but you had to leave rightce to now, would you go? world, man: 'oh i can't go tonight' woman: 'i can't.' hero : that's what expedia asked me. host: book the flight but you have to go right now. hero: (laughs) and i just go? this is for real right? this is for real? i always said one day i'd go to china, just never thought it'd be today. anncr: we're giving away a trip every day. download the expedia app and your next trip could be on us. expedia, find yours. ♪ don't tell mom. don't tell mom. don't tell mom! don't tell mom. okay. don't tell mom. don't tell mom. don't tell mom? yeah. the best stories you'll ever tell start with, don't tell." don't tell dad. start yours in the new santa fe. from hyundai. >>> you don't have a domestic spying perhaps. what we do have are some mechanisms where we can track a phone number or an e-mail address that we know is connected to some sor
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these nsa programs are extremely unpopular in europe, too. it's caused tension between some of the united states' closest allies. it goes beyond russia. obviously, this is the near-term issue we expect to hear the president sort of justify his reasoning of not doing this -- of deciding to skip this summit. it is fascinating now. he's announcing a whole bunch of reforms based on documents that were released by edward snowden. they're announcing all of these new reforms. okay. now we've canceled a summit. at some point over russia's refusal to turn edward snowden over, but it's clear they're also sort of sheepish in deciding they do need a new policy. so was it really -- then should they be cancelling summits over this issue? i think that's going to be another question the president is going to have to deal with. >> have you heard anything about the lower-level meetings taking place between secretary kerry and hagel and their russian counterparts today and if that's helping to mend any of the fi fissures? >> well, they are supposedly -- and the
these nsa programs are extremely unpopular in europe, too. it's caused tension between some of the united states' closest allies. it goes beyond russia. obviously, this is the near-term issue we expect to hear the president sort of justify his reasoning of not doing this -- of deciding to skip this summit. it is fascinating now. he's announcing a whole bunch of reforms based on documents that were released by edward snowden. they're announcing all of these new reforms. okay. now we've canceled...
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is joe schmo one of the guys the nsa is infusing to worry about the e-mail? i saw this piece i was reading, saying haven't i read this before? some of this we have known, haven't we? >> well, we certainly have known that the nsa oversees a collection of a vast amount of internet voice communication and uses the internet to hunt through them. and we know that here on domestic soil where the constitution applies and so forth it does sometimes under the fiza amendment act, target overseas collections. and if america is in direct contact with that foreign target that means the american's communication will be taken without a warrant, as well. so what is different about this, this is the searching of the content of americans of at least their cross-border communications, and it is happening on u.s. soil without warrants. >> you have real technical detail on how they do it, it is kind of fascinating. they in effect make a kind of clone of the information, and according to the report, hold it briefly, maybe minutes or less. and if they don't find the things they're
is joe schmo one of the guys the nsa is infusing to worry about the e-mail? i saw this piece i was reading, saying haven't i read this before? some of this we have known, haven't we? >> well, we certainly have known that the nsa oversees a collection of a vast amount of internet voice communication and uses the internet to hunt through them. and we know that here on domestic soil where the constitution applies and so forth it does sometimes under the fiza amendment act, target overseas...
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we will talk to the former nsa director michael hayden about the nation's security as the president rallied the troops yesterday. >> here is what those who would cowardly attack our civilians don't get. the united states is never going to retreat from the world. we don't get terrorized. >>> good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington where officials say they saw no utility in having the president meet with vladimire putin over eric snowden and the disagreements over removal of president assad, and so was this maybe lost in translation. >> this is my last election and after my election, i have more flexibility. >> i understand. >> former white house press secretary and msnbc contributor robert gibbs joins me now and you know the back story and you have been in the meetings, and what is the dynamic between president obama and vladimire putin. >> i don't think that the dynamic is particularly good or strong. you showed president medvedev who president obama had a very strong working relationship with, and quite frankly, i think that president medvedev wanted to bring russia into the internatio
we will talk to the former nsa director michael hayden about the nation's security as the president rallied the troops yesterday. >> here is what those who would cowardly attack our civilians don't get. the united states is never going to retreat from the world. we don't get terrorized. >>> good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington where officials say they saw no utility in having the president meet with vladimire putin over eric snowden and the disagreements over removal of...
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telling us what exactly the nsa does might be a nice next step, you guys. >>> good tuesday morning. right now on "first look," the west continues to be a tinderbox as crews battle on. >>> caroline kennedy's personal financial records released for the first time. >>> james dimaggio leaves life insurance money to hannah anderson's family. >>> legendary dick vandyke survives an accident. prince will criminal dwush william gushes about baby george. david beckham gets back to business and the marine gets the ncaa to bend. >>> good morning. i'm mara schiavocampo. we start in the west where it's man versus nature. firefighters report some progress in that massive growing wildfire in central idaho. the flames are threatening at least three communities, forcing thousands to flee. jay gray reports from near the fire line in haley, idaho. >> reporter: the fight against the beaver creek wildfire continues for a 13th day this morning in the idaho mountains. the massive blaze fanning out in several directions right now, pushed by strong winds and with no shortage of dried out brush for fuel. it's
telling us what exactly the nsa does might be a nice next step, you guys. >>> good tuesday morning. right now on "first look," the west continues to be a tinderbox as crews battle on. >>> caroline kennedy's personal financial records released for the first time. >>> james dimaggio leaves life insurance money to hannah anderson's family. >>> legendary dick vandyke survives an accident. prince will criminal dwush william gushes about baby george....
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but hanging over everything is the nsa leaker edward snowden who jay carney said is also a factor in the fighter. republicans sounded almost gleeful wrrg according to a spokes person for john boehner, the president's signature foreign policy accomplishment from the first term, a reset with russia, has just collapsed. for boehner, this is just another opportunity to attack the president. other republicans like john mccain who know what they're talking about said they agreed with the president's decision but suggested going even further in cooling our relationship with moscow. steve kornacki is host of "up with steve kornacki." anyway, it's on weekend mornings and doing great, and john is a great historian, analyst, and author of a great book "the center holds" about the 2012 election. let's try, steve and then john. it seems to me, you whack him if he goes right, whack him if he goes left if he's a republican. we failed to make friends with vladimir putin. look at him. you can't be friends with that guy. he wants to be daniel craig in the action movies, but he's a ferocious guy who is
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we never really imagined that all this data would be warehoused under the nsa. and i think that's what's giving the american people a lot of pause right now. and i think that's what needs to be explained to the american people. and congress will be reviewing this issue in section 215 of the patriot act to see if this is expanded beyond the original intent of the law. >> what actually changes, bart? do you think there's much room here to fundamentally change these programs? because all the nsa says is, look, maybe we could change who controls this meta data, which is in this virtual vault, and who has access to it and how it's kept, which may be not enough for those who think there's a problem. >> well, congress may decide not to allow the nsa or via the fbi to collect every single call record of every single american for this purpose. that's not what the president's argument sounded like in his news conference. he sounded like he wanted to, as you say, just put a little more oversight on it internally, within the executive branch, and to sort of be slightly more
we never really imagined that all this data would be warehoused under the nsa. and i think that's what's giving the american people a lot of pause right now. and i think that's what needs to be explained to the american people. and congress will be reviewing this issue in section 215 of the patriot act to see if this is expanded beyond the original intent of the law. >> what actually changes, bart? do you think there's much room here to fundamentally change these programs? because all the...
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plan that the president said was in the works before edward snowden leaked secret nsa documents to the press. >> there's no doubt that mr. snowden's leaks triggered a much more rapid and passionate response. i actually think we would have gotten to the same place and we would have done so without putting at risk our national security. >> nbc's kristen welker is live at martha's vineyard where the president is expected to arrive shortly. kristen, good to see you. >> reporter: good to see you, too, craig. >> what can we expect from president obama after his vacation? >> reporter: well, craig, i think you're going to hear a lot more about the nsa, as you heard the president say and as you just mentioned. he mapped out sort of his strategy moving forward, announced the fact that there need to be steps taken to enhance transparency of that controversial surveillance program. so he really started to enumerate what he wants to see happen, yesterday during that news conference, take a look at some of what he mapped out. working with congress to reform the nsa program that collects telephone da
plan that the president said was in the works before edward snowden leaked secret nsa documents to the press. >> there's no doubt that mr. snowden's leaks triggered a much more rapid and passionate response. i actually think we would have gotten to the same place and we would have done so without putting at risk our national security. >> nbc's kristen welker is live at martha's vineyard where the president is expected to arrive shortly. kristen, good to see you. >> reporter:...
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i want to go right to pete williams on the nsa. pete, you heard the president lay out four changes that he wanted to make, reforming section 215 with new safeguards, greater transparency and also the creation of some kind of new independent body. your reaction to the president on the surveillance issue. >> right. what the president said is that he's willing to look at the issue of having an adversary before the foreign intelligence surveillance corps, one of the criticisms of it is that the only people who ever appear before these judges in secret are the government. nobody's there to argue against or say the government doesn't need this and shouldn't have it. the president has said he's willing to look at an adversary to represent in essence civil liberties interests. he didn't say he was committed to it. he said he was willing to consider it. apparently this is something the government is seriously considering doing. making more public information about how these programs work putting up a website to explain them and bringing in
i want to go right to pete williams on the nsa. pete, you heard the president lay out four changes that he wanted to make, reforming section 215 with new safeguards, greater transparency and also the creation of some kind of new independent body. your reaction to the president on the surveillance issue. >> right. what the president said is that he's willing to look at the issue of having an adversary before the foreign intelligence surveillance corps, one of the criticisms of it is that...
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what has their thinking been about the criticism of the nsa program? >> of all things on his plate, snowden leaks, the question of what does nsa do and what is surveillance about, politically had a bigger impact than the other various controversy. some argue are politically driven and others more serious than that. this one had the actual impact when you look at the polls it's that's where you see skepticism rising among particularly among folks under the age of 40 who spent a lot of time online and he has been getting a lot of advice, the president has, from outside advisers saying you have to be more public in explaining and if your going to defend and in defending. create more transparency and do these things. you have to get out there and explain these programs because you're taking on water on this topic with a group of voters and a group of americans who are inclined to be supportive of you on other things. you can't afford to lose another piece of the american electorate because you have other things you have to push. >> and this comes after con
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you guys have filed a lawsuit challenging the nsa's phone surveillance program. what, if anything, do these new revelations mean for your case? >> well, i think these revelations underscore the need for greater oversight over the nsa and greater scrutiny by the courts. the revelations really highlight a few things. first of all, it's really shocking to see how many violations there were of surveillance laws that are extraordinarily per mmissiveper. these are laws that are hard to violate because they permit the nsa to do so much surveillance of americans' communications when they go into and out of the country that it's hard to understand how they violate them on average, if you take an average, about seven times every single day. but the other thing that the revelations really highlight, i think, is that there's a lack of real oversight both by congress but also by the foreign intelligence surveillance court, which is a secret court that's supposed to oversee the nsa. in a companion article to the one that you've been talking about, the chief judge of the court
you guys have filed a lawsuit challenging the nsa's phone surveillance program. what, if anything, do these new revelations mean for your case? >> well, i think these revelations underscore the need for greater oversight over the nsa and greater scrutiny by the courts. the revelations really highlight a few things. first of all, it's really shocking to see how many violations there were of surveillance laws that are extraordinarily per mmissiveper. these are laws that are hard to violate...
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it says, nsa director keith b. alexander has claimed, quote, we don't hold data on u.s. citizens. in the article government officials defended that claim with assertions that the agency's internal definition of data doesn't cover meta data like the not millions or billions but the trillions of american call records that the nsa is now known to have collected and stored since 2006. that's one tangible, you know, recorded lie that we know about. there are others because james clapper misled congress about aspects of the program. my question to you, perry, in washington, how does that aspect of this, the nsa's lies, affect the bipartisan pushback that we're seeing on the program? >> it's encouraging the pushback. you can tell members of congress -- two months ago when this program was exposed, president obama gave a press conference in which he was very defiant. basically said, this is not a scandal, people know about this. you can tell now -- i saw a member from michigan who's a republican who led the fight to defund this nsa program. had a very blistering statement today about this
it says, nsa director keith b. alexander has claimed, quote, we don't hold data on u.s. citizens. in the article government officials defended that claim with assertions that the agency's internal definition of data doesn't cover meta data like the not millions or billions but the trillions of american call records that the nsa is now known to have collected and stored since 2006. that's one tangible, you know, recorded lie that we know about. there are others because james clapper misled...
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you brought up that "new york times" sotory yesterday on nsa. this has done more damage to the president and his brand with supporters of his, it's the issue of surveillance and surveillance state, the struggles that he's had to deal with looking at an impact with china and all that. more than any of the other stories, this has been the one that is the most politically damaging. it's one the white house folks will tell you off the record they believe this has been the stuff that is hit them hardest that hurt them more than some of the other things that have popped up there over the last couple of months let alone discussed with washington and things like that. but that because it hit its core and hit the core particularly with younger demographic which has been be a important part of this base. so that's going to be something to hear the president address and deal with issues of the surveillance state. where it is. where are we in transparency. putin will be there. obviously that's going to be big. hearing him on egypt. a lot of national securit
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that includes syria, iran, missile defense and of course the fate of nsa leaker snowden. you can expect questions on the status of the terror threat warnings, the status of al qaeda. how strong are they? the state department today has ordered all nonessential staff to evacuate another consulate. this one in lahore, pakistan. the move after the u.s. closed 19 diplomatic missions in response to an ongoing terror threat. the obama administration has struggled with the aftershocks of the arab spring that the president heralded two years ago. >> we see many reasons to be hopeful. in egypt, we see it in the emplemplt efforts of young people who led protests. while chanting, peaceful, peaceful. in benghazi, a city threatened with destruction, we see it in the courthouse square, where people gathered to celebrate the freedom, they had never known. >> two years later, in egypt, diplomatic attempt, to broker a deal between islamists and the military has failed. warning now ingredients are there for a violent insurgency that could last years. kind of like syria. in fact, in syria, p
that includes syria, iran, missile defense and of course the fate of nsa leaker snowden. you can expect questions on the status of the terror threat warnings, the status of al qaeda. how strong are they? the state department today has ordered all nonessential staff to evacuate another consulate. this one in lahore, pakistan. the move after the u.s. closed 19 diplomatic missions in response to an ongoing terror threat. the obama administration has struggled with the aftershocks of the arab...
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"mad" magazine, humor in the president's defense of nsa surveillance. overseeing the magazine's spy versus spy characters as they sharpen their eaves dropping devices. if you read only one thing, check out forbes magazine's fascinating article about how the very successful spend time. guess what. less than a third of top ceos are on twitter. in fact, warren buffett tweeted just twice since may 2. what social media do they use? find out in the must read on our facebook page at facebook/jing co. ss. can i get the smith contract, please? thank you. that's three new paper shredders. [ boris ] put 'em on my spark card. [ garth ] boris' small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase every day. great businesses deserve unlimited rewards. read back the chicken's testimony, please. "buk, buk, bukka!" [ male announcer ] get the spark business card from capital one and earn unlimited rewards. choose 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase every day. told you i'd get half. what's in your wallet? the new samsung galaxy s 4.ng you about. told you i'd get
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claims and what we heard from the nsa just seven days later? >> he has been parcing his words very, very carefully. up to what we could politely call being disingenuous. he said congress is fully briefed on this kind of thing and members of congress have said constantly that when they do go to an intelligence briefing they get really real distortions. all kinds of platitudes without any specifics. what we have is a situation where the nsa has been caught once again and it really gets us to the fundamental issue, which is you have to always word with the authorities that if they have power there is a potential that they're going to abuse it. >> you know, a very interesting point earlier in the broadcast, we were talking about stop and frisk and he talked about the fourth amendment in general. since becoming one of the forgotten amendments over the past year and a half do we agree with that assessment? is that something that has received bipartisan support that the fourth amendment is under fire more than especially the second amendment which som
claims and what we heard from the nsa just seven days later? >> he has been parcing his words very, very carefully. up to what we could politely call being disingenuous. he said congress is fully briefed on this kind of thing and members of congress have said constantly that when they do go to an intelligence briefing they get really real distortions. all kinds of platitudes without any specifics. what we have is a situation where the nsa has been caught once again and it really gets us...
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all of these developments is the fate of this young man, edward snowden, leaker of details of secret nsa surveillance programs stuck in limbo at the moscow airport for more than a month, before he was granted temporary asylum in russia. between us and russia, things are not awesome right now. things have not been awesome for i don't know -- things have not been awesome since 1947 basically. but they're bad enough now on trivial levels and on deeply serious levels, that the white house today essentially said, let's call the whole thing off. the white house today announcing that president obama has cancelled a scheduled one on one meeting between him and vladimir putin next month, during the g-20 summit in russia. given our lack of progress on issues, such as missile defense, arms control. global security issues and human rights and civil society in the last 12 months. we have informed the russian government we believe it would be more constructive to postpone the summit until we have more results from our shared agenda. russia's disappointing decision was also a factor that we considered
all of these developments is the fate of this young man, edward snowden, leaker of details of secret nsa surveillance programs stuck in limbo at the moscow airport for more than a month, before he was granted temporary asylum in russia. between us and russia, things are not awesome right now. things have not been awesome for i don't know -- things have not been awesome since 1947 basically. but they're bad enough now on trivial levels and on deeply serious levels, that the white house today...
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we have people who don't trust the government on nsa spying. we have people that don't trust the government with the irs declining conservative organizations. we have benghazi, which we doentd hear enough about. it's not defunding obama care. obama care hasn't been funded. so the real question is will we vote to fund obama care or not, not defund. and it's certainly not the republicans who would shut the government down. it would be president clinton -- president obama. of course i don't think it would get to his desk. but by virtue of him not signing or vetoing the budget. that would shut the government down. >> let me show you something, congressman pittender took a vote to fund obama care even though he tried to explain why it would be pointless. and the crowd did not like what they heard. >> we lose over there, then they come back to us in the house. if you win by going after not only -- we look at your -- and how you're going to win. >> it doesn't matter what harry reid does, we need to show the american people we stand for conservative va
we have people who don't trust the government on nsa spying. we have people that don't trust the government with the irs declining conservative organizations. we have benghazi, which we doentd hear enough about. it's not defunding obama care. obama care hasn't been funded. so the real question is will we vote to fund obama care or not, not defund. and it's certainly not the republicans who would shut the government down. it would be president clinton -- president obama. of course i don't think...
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the other comparing the nsa program to doing the dishes at the white house. >> it's odd language for a person who's actually behaved oddly over the past two years. >> richard is talking about the president of the united states -- >> just to be clear -- >> i'm talking about -- >> the president of the united states. >> i do agree it's odd language to use about vladimir putin. i do. but look at this guy. i mean it's not like -- >> he's looking sexy. do you think he's own human growth? >> oh, god. i just want to be sick. come on. >> russia is a spoiler. this is no longer a great power. this is a country of 143 million people and the population until the last year or so has been shrinking. a one-dimensional economy. just got oil and gas. economically and politically controlled by a handful of people. it's a spoiler. it's a spoiler in place -- >> do you agree with john mccain's critique of the president? >> that's where i disagree with john. okay. but they're still out there, got a vote in the security council, can supply arms it to the syrians. look, we don't like them but what's the best
the other comparing the nsa program to doing the dishes at the white house. >> it's odd language for a person who's actually behaved oddly over the past two years. >> richard is talking about the president of the united states -- >> just to be clear -- >> i'm talking about -- >> the president of the united states. >> i do agree it's odd language to use about vladimir putin. i do. but look at this guy. i mean it's not like -- >> he's looking sexy. do you...
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stories in "the washington post" this week outline that there's been thousands of violations by the nsa of the surveillance laws, just last year, and that the fisa court judge, he doesn't think that they have the ability to monitor those type of violations. so we're going to see, i think, a new round of hearings from senator leahy. >> all right. nia? >> we now know that the movie "the butler" is a movie worth seeing. it came out yesterday, starring, of course, forest whitaker, based on the real life of a butler who served eight administrations. oprah winfrey's in it, lenny kravitz, i think i'll go see it later today. >> it's on my list, but my list goes about three years, the last time i saw a movie. thanks to krystal ball, sam cedar, and nia-malika henderson of "the washington post." thank you all for getting up and thank you for joining us today for "up." join us tomorrow, sunday morning at 8:00, we'll have hakim jeffries on the politics of crime. >>> and up next, melissa harris-perry with joy reid sitting in. the 25-year anniversary sheds light on the state of police today. why ice c
stories in "the washington post" this week outline that there's been thousands of violations by the nsa of the surveillance laws, just last year, and that the fisa court judge, he doesn't think that they have the ability to monitor those type of violations. so we're going to see, i think, a new round of hearings from senator leahy. >> all right. nia? >> we now know that the movie "the butler" is a movie worth seeing. it came out yesterday, starring, of course,...
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the ap situation, the james rosen situation, the nsa situation. it's been one crisis after another, and nine months in to his second term going on vacation, approval ratings down a bit, obama care just getting bashed around which josh is going to talk about in a little bit, they've had to put off the employer map date fmandate, con exempted themselves, the president has had a really rough nine months. this happens in second terms. this isn't just about him. but boy, what a rough nine months it has been for the white house. >> it's been a rough nine months but it doesn't happen in second terms as you mentioned and -- >> yeah. >> and then sometimes years later the second terms are remembered as not all that bad. the president, for example, is spending a lot of time himself on the implementation of obama care which he believes has to go right or has to go as well as it possibly can. and so that will be judged years from now as a success or a failure and that will say a lot about how we see this term in office. but you're right, that, you know, democr
the ap situation, the james rosen situation, the nsa situation. it's been one crisis after another, and nine months in to his second term going on vacation, approval ratings down a bit, obama care just getting bashed around which josh is going to talk about in a little bit, they've had to put off the employer map date fmandate, con exempted themselves, the president has had a really rough nine months. this happens in second terms. this isn't just about him. but boy, what a rough nine months it...